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faded_lace) wrote2014-08-12 07:45 pm
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More on the Gamushara! Sexy Natsu Matsuri results
Like I said in my last post, I'm going to write full reports, but since someone on twitter so kindly made these charts, I'm going to go ahead and post them along with some thoughts about the final results.
But first I'm just going to stick a glossary here in case anyone is having trouble reading the Japanese on the charts. ^^; Sorry that I didn't make new ones in English, but I think they're pretty easy to follow based on formatting.
我 - Ga [blue] (Jesse, Masuda, Hanzawa, Iwamoto, Fukasawa)
武 - Mu [red] (Iwahashi, Matsuda, Takahashi K, Takahashi F, Hayashi)
者 - Sha [green] (Jinguji, Nakamura, Matsukura, Tajima, Inoue)
羅 - Ra [yellow] (Matsumura, Kyomoto, Tanaka, Morimoto, Morohoshi)
位 - [i] place (ex: 1位 = first place)
結果 - [kekka] result
観客 - [kankyaku] audience
分け - [wake] tie (represented by pink on the second chart)
部 - [bu] counter for shows (ex: 1部 would be the first show of the day)
平均 - [heikin] average
勝つ - [katsu] win
負ける - [makeru] lose
If you have any questions about the Japanese or the chart, please feel free to ask me ^^;
So first up, we have a chart of the final results:
(you can find the original chart posted here!)
From the chart, you can see that in terms of shows won by the audience alone, Sha had a ridiculous number more than the rest of the teams. Eleven shows! If they had ranked by that, Sha would have had a landslide win. Obviously, Johnny's had to rig it to keep the competition
"exciting," but it's a little disappointed that those amazing scores never came to anything.
And then, if you look, Mu is in last place despite having the same number of decibels in total as Team Ra, in first place. So despite the way the scores turned out, they actually had as much support as Team Ra did. It just goes to show that the scoring for the show really didn't reflect the actual support that the guys were getting.
But you can see even more in detail if you look at the detailed results in the next table:
(you can find the original chart posted here! You can click on the photo I posted to see it bigger.)
First of all, in this graphic version, it's really easy to see how much Sha creamed Ga and Ra. Neither Ga nor Ra won even one show against Sha in terms of the audience decibels. The only team that Sha was evenly matched with was Mu, who seem to have been combined victims of chance (which team had more fans in the audience which day, which fans were closer to the mic) and of either Johnny's rigging or the juniors respecting more the senpai who are older than them-- Yasui told the audience that the Juniors were to make it impartial since we all have favourites who we think are cool, but it's not exactly like the Juniors are impartial, either. They all have admired senpai, and some of the older ones are peers with members of Team Mu and Team Sha. Of course they'd vote for the older teams.
You can also make note here that Team Mu had the highest scoring decibel level of the whole run in the first show, 111 db. The lowest score of the whole show was by Team Ga, 95 db.
But then, I was curious to see by how much each team had won in terms of decibels in each show, so I went ahead and made a few more charts:
This is a chart of the decibel difference between the winning team and the losing team for each show. The decibel value is coloured to match the colour of the winning team. You can see from this chart that, by in large, Sha and Mu beat Ga and Ra by much higher numbers than Ga and Ra beat Sha and Mu. Sha and Mu seemed to have been more evenly matched, and Ga and Ra also seemed to be more evenly matched.
But just to make it easier to see, I averaged everything here:
On the left, we have each team's average score in decibels against a certain other team. You'll notice that Mu and Sha's tend to be higher than Ra and Ga's. On the right, we have the average number more points each team had than the other teams in matches where that team won. Mu and Sha tended to win by more than Ra and Ga did.
I know this probably seems like beating a dead horse, but my point in posting is not to show that any team was "better" than another, but rather to show that the scoring was sort of a randomly-decided way to rank them, and that, in the end, it didn't necessarily measure the amount of support each team was getting. Yes, I know it was a popularity contest at best and a haphazard mess at worst, but it really makes me sad to think about the boys thinking they're big failures when really, they were very well received. I wish I could send all this data to them, but since I can't, I'm sharing it here on my journal.
I still need to write shiritori tonight, oops. x__x; This is just another piece of proof that I'm a huge, obsessive nerd when it comes to fandom.
But first I'm just going to stick a glossary here in case anyone is having trouble reading the Japanese on the charts. ^^; Sorry that I didn't make new ones in English, but I think they're pretty easy to follow based on formatting.
我 - Ga [blue] (Jesse, Masuda, Hanzawa, Iwamoto, Fukasawa)
武 - Mu [red] (Iwahashi, Matsuda, Takahashi K, Takahashi F, Hayashi)
者 - Sha [green] (Jinguji, Nakamura, Matsukura, Tajima, Inoue)
羅 - Ra [yellow] (Matsumura, Kyomoto, Tanaka, Morimoto, Morohoshi)
位 - [i] place (ex: 1位 = first place)
結果 - [kekka] result
観客 - [kankyaku] audience
分け - [wake] tie (represented by pink on the second chart)
部 - [bu] counter for shows (ex: 1部 would be the first show of the day)
平均 - [heikin] average
勝つ - [katsu] win
負ける - [makeru] lose
If you have any questions about the Japanese or the chart, please feel free to ask me ^^;
So first up, we have a chart of the final results:
(you can find the original chart posted here!)
From the chart, you can see that in terms of shows won by the audience alone, Sha had a ridiculous number more than the rest of the teams. Eleven shows! If they had ranked by that, Sha would have had a landslide win. Obviously, Johnny's had to rig it to keep the competition
"exciting," but it's a little disappointed that those amazing scores never came to anything.
And then, if you look, Mu is in last place despite having the same number of decibels in total as Team Ra, in first place. So despite the way the scores turned out, they actually had as much support as Team Ra did. It just goes to show that the scoring for the show really didn't reflect the actual support that the guys were getting.
But you can see even more in detail if you look at the detailed results in the next table:
(you can find the original chart posted here! You can click on the photo I posted to see it bigger.)
First of all, in this graphic version, it's really easy to see how much Sha creamed Ga and Ra. Neither Ga nor Ra won even one show against Sha in terms of the audience decibels. The only team that Sha was evenly matched with was Mu, who seem to have been combined victims of chance (which team had more fans in the audience which day, which fans were closer to the mic) and of either Johnny's rigging or the juniors respecting more the senpai who are older than them-- Yasui told the audience that the Juniors were to make it impartial since we all have favourites who we think are cool, but it's not exactly like the Juniors are impartial, either. They all have admired senpai, and some of the older ones are peers with members of Team Mu and Team Sha. Of course they'd vote for the older teams.
You can also make note here that Team Mu had the highest scoring decibel level of the whole run in the first show, 111 db. The lowest score of the whole show was by Team Ga, 95 db.
But then, I was curious to see by how much each team had won in terms of decibels in each show, so I went ahead and made a few more charts:
This is a chart of the decibel difference between the winning team and the losing team for each show. The decibel value is coloured to match the colour of the winning team. You can see from this chart that, by in large, Sha and Mu beat Ga and Ra by much higher numbers than Ga and Ra beat Sha and Mu. Sha and Mu seemed to have been more evenly matched, and Ga and Ra also seemed to be more evenly matched.
But just to make it easier to see, I averaged everything here:
On the left, we have each team's average score in decibels against a certain other team. You'll notice that Mu and Sha's tend to be higher than Ra and Ga's. On the right, we have the average number more points each team had than the other teams in matches where that team won. Mu and Sha tended to win by more than Ra and Ga did.
I know this probably seems like beating a dead horse, but my point in posting is not to show that any team was "better" than another, but rather to show that the scoring was sort of a randomly-decided way to rank them, and that, in the end, it didn't necessarily measure the amount of support each team was getting. Yes, I know it was a popularity contest at best and a haphazard mess at worst, but it really makes me sad to think about the boys thinking they're big failures when really, they were very well received. I wish I could send all this data to them, but since I can't, I'm sharing it here on my journal.
I still need to write shiritori tonight, oops. x__x; This is just another piece of proof that I'm a huge, obsessive nerd when it comes to fandom.
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re: team ra - when gamushara was announced i looked at the teams and thought to myself, "oh, ra's the winner." like there was literally no doubt in my mind that whatever system was used & no matter how "impartial" it was, ra was going to win. you don't stack a team with older/more popular juniors & then expect it to lose. so, while i'm disappointed that ra won (SORRY TAIGA SORRY my taiga fan card is going to be revoked with my kenty bighead fan card), i'm not at alllll surprised. not in the least.
so, in assuming that the system would always favor ra, this also means that the system was set up to not favor the other teams. i don't for one single second believe that it was ever left up to chance. the only thing that could not be controlled/anticipated was the audience vote and, uh, how about those results, huh? if the scoring system was truly impartial, there would not be such a great disparity between what the fans thought & what the juniors thought. a few shows, okay, fine. every show? no.
It just goes to show that the scoring for the show really didn't reflect the actual support that the guys were getting.
of course. because, basically, the team that was supposed to win, won. the team that was supposed to lose, lost.
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Seriously, though, in my pettiest heart of hearts, LOOK AT TEAM SHA'S 11-1 SCORE. Why was that team not the winner when they creamed the other teams in audience vote. Sheesh.
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Idk. The whole thing was just crazy stressful to me and I hope the boys know they did an amazing job no matter what.
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Mostly I just feel frustrated for them and I hope they know that with just the factual results, they did really well, both Sha and Mu. >__<;
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