faded_lace: (Gakuto: スイツ!)
faded_lace ([personal profile] faded_lace) wrote2010-02-08 01:10 am

gakuto's a whore?

Apparently, I really can't decide who I pair Gakuto with. XD; Every time I'm going back to good old Oshitari/Gakuto, I happen to see something ShishiGaku or something and it makes me squeal over that. XD;;;

So, since I wanted to create a poll. XD;;; Please give me your opinion! Which is your first favourite Gakuto pairing?

[Poll #1522811]

Please leave me a comment explaining your decision and, if you chose other, telling me who you pair him with! And... don't mind the Sanada thing. XD; It's from an RP...

And I really meant to go to bed at midnight...

[identity profile] fencer-x.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, sorry but that's one of my OTPs -- I'll never read him with anyone else :) I'm perfectly fine seeing friendship fics, because you cannot deny his relationships with characters like Shishido and Hiyoshi, but 1) Silver Pair's just got way more to them than anything I've seen with Gakuto--Shishido and Gakuto push each other's buttons too much and don't seem to really have too much in common.

Oshitari and Gakuto have chemistry more than anything, a mutual respect and seem to get along for all intents and purposes. Doubles in canon seems to do that to characters, and Gakuto's stated that he only plays doubles--so he definitely seems to be open to relying on someone else and being "in tune" with them. I absolutely love listening to their SPIRAL duet, too, as it's a good description of why I like their relationship :)

Anyways, that's what makes me like their canon relationship -- and then their potential as more than that is just building off of it :)

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes sense. With Shishido, it's more because of the OVA than anything... baby!Gakuto and baby!Shishido seem to have so much chemistry that I can't help think they were together in first year or something. XD;;; Of course, I can't deny Silver Pair, but watching 'Fuun Shounen Atobe" really made me not be able to deny living Shishido with Gakuto, either. XD;;

Don't get me wrong - Oshitari and Gakuto was one of my very first Prince of Tennis ships, and I fought very much against liking anything else, but the writers of the OVAs seem to like to push Gakuto around on other people, and so that kind of broke my "don't read anything but OshiGaku" stance. XD; Still, I definitely agree with all yours points, and I do love the two of them together.

[identity profile] puzzlepiece.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
I really don't pair him with anyone. I normally see him with Yuushi or Hiyoshi and if I had to choose, he's okay with Yuushi. In canon, they play off of each other well and are complementary but I pair Yuushi up with others over Gakuto so Bad Bangs Boy is usually left in the dust.

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm, maybe I should have made a button for that. Sorry! That definitely makes sense... I just have an inordinate love for Gakuto. XD;;

[identity profile] yomimashou.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to have to go with Oshitari as well ^^; I really like him with Piyo, too, but that hasn't overtaken Dirty Pair yet. They were kind of my first tenipuri OTP, so even if I don't read them as much anymore, they definitely have a special place in my heart...and in my layout? XD;;

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww. XD;; Well, they were my layout for a while, too, but, honestly, a lot of my drive behind liking them together recently has been because of Saitou and Ruito. Those two have more chemistry together than most other TeniMyu pairs, and it really shows on stage. Maybe I just need to go back and rewatch the anime; it's been a while (a year :D), but I feel like I liked Yuushi with Gakuto out of default, because that's what was expected and because they played doubles. I don't remember well enough, but I almost feel like there's more chemistry in canon between Hiyoshi and Gakuto in that one OVA episode and Shishido and Gakuto in Fuun Shounen Atobe than there was between Yuushi and Gakuto in the series (because that was before the writers realized their target audience? idk. XD;) Of course, it may just be because I watched the latter two more recently, too.

...mm, maybe I should go read some dirty pair fic now. XD;

[identity profile] yomimashou.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
It's true that Saitou and Ruito's portrayal helps a lot XD;; I see your point, though...it's like, because it's been a while since I watched the anime, my perception of them has been really shaped by fic. I wish I had time to rewatch it :/ But to be fair, I would need to watch the OVA as well and compare XD

I think Shishido and Gakuto gave me too much of a bffl vibe in Fuun Shounen Atobe for me to really ship them, though...

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, exactly. And while fandom is excellent, sometimes I feel like, especially with prince of tennis, I have to go back to canon and figure out what I really think. It's actually a problem that happens to me a lot with Mizuki, because fandom his this little tendency to make him into a woman. But you really ought to watch the OVA... that episode is ridiculous. XD;

Really? Even when I first saw it, and I was super resisting wanting to ship them, I couldn't help but see it a little. The way Shishido totally melts when Gakuto yells at him, and he doesn't snap back at him, but is just like "...see?" And the way he responds to Gakuto's sweets/temptress face. And just... everything about the two of them together. XD; It's adorable.

[identity profile] yomimashou.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
XD It's definitely on my to-do list. Maybe we can watch it when I come visit you.

Maybe I need to watch that again, too XD I'd probably see it if I was looking for it.

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-10 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
XD; That would be fun. I still have to watch the Chinese drama though XD;

[identity profile] onewhomust.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
With Piyo, because... just with Piyo! Because they are cute and awkward :3 Although I do love Dirty Pair a lot, I feel like I had to rep the PiyoGakkun shippers by voting for him.

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
XD; They are adorable and awkward, and you really can't deny Piyo's cute awkward crush on him in the OVA and Imperial Presence, even if Gakuto seems to be extremely dense and not notice it at all. XD;;; Yay for more diverse votes!

Gakuto / Sanada

[identity profile] pergamond.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
... it's entirely your fault I'm this screw up. SO DON'T YOU JUDGE ME!

Re: Gakuto / Sanada

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
XD I love you, El. ♥

[identity profile] genicheerios.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
:3 Yuushi... Gakuto's whore to Oshitari's sex god prowess. I love both of them... :3

Sanada/Gakuto sounds like a rip-roaring good time. :D :D :D

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Were you the "other"? XD; I was expecting you to answer "L" XD;;;

And yes, but alas, Sanada doesn't see it this way.

[identity profile] genicheerios.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG NUUU I DIDN'T THINK L COUNTED IN THE REAL WORLD! lol... Darn it!! Their love is so true. :D

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
XD; Well, that's just what I was expecting from you. If you weren't the "other" then who was? XD;

[identity profile] starianprincess.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I haven't read a lot of other Gakuto pairings - which is why I voted for OshiGaku, but as I do enjoy odd pairs and am open to most others as long as it does present some sort of explanation (no matter how vague), I don't see how pairing him up with anyone else wouldn't work. HiyoGaku is really cute, and we see some hint of ShishiGaku in the OVA. Once upon a time, I used to ship Atobe/Gaku and Gaku/Jirou, too.

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
XD; I kind of am of the school of thought where there's evidence to ship him with just about everyone, so I do. XD; Though I never got the AtoGaku thing... :x I just don't see how it could make any sense.

[identity profile] starianprincess.livejournal.com 2010-02-10 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there's nothing wrong with shipping him with just about everyone. I do that with some characters myself. Never in one setting though; rule of multiple ships entails that you don't have everyone tripping on their toes and madly in love with one character unless there's a distinct setting for it. Or a few of them have had some mysterious Inui concoction. ;)

AtoGaku depends on characterization. Mm. Actually, any pairing would. It depends how you view them. Atobe would drive Gakuto crazy, I admit, but in a probable 'relationship', it'd go both ways. I see them as being impulsive on different levels, I see one character creeping the other out (not in the Inui or Mizuki way). I see growing up and them seeing each other in a new light, too. I guess more work goes into developing them rather than taking them as an established pair.
Edited 2010-02-10 03:46 (UTC)

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-10 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
XD; yeah. He's not like Golden Pair or Silver Pair where there's a lot of evidence towards one solid pairing (not to say that one can't ship the members of either of those with others, I'm just saying there's lots of canon evidence), he has quite a bit of wiggle room, and I have fun with it. :)

Hmm, I can see how, perhaps, they might be compatible in some situations, but it's not really on the top of my "this is likely to happen in the future" list. Unless there was some event that left them stuck together, I don't think Gakuto would ever be on Atobe's radar, just because Atobe likes to be "at the top" so to speak. The people I see being compatible with Atobe - Tezuka, Ryoma, Sanada - are all people he considers to be at his level, and though I can see, should some event happen, Gakuto and Atobe having some chemistry together, I don't see it being something that would naturally happen. Honestly, I feel the same way about Atobe and Jirou, which is a vastly popular pairing for reasons I don't understand.

[identity profile] snaphappy-fma.livejournal.com 2010-02-10 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I just adore Gakuto with Oshitari Y. I know it's the canon or semi-canon pairing, but they're perfect for each other. Gakuto needs Oshitari's stability and Oshitari is the one who can rein Gakuto in. ;)

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-10 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Despite that I really do like the pairing of Gakuto and Oshitari Yuushi quite a bit, I'm disinclined to agree with you. Of the characters that have "semi-canon" pairings (a term that I'm hesitant to use because, really, the only canon pairing is Yuuji and Koharu), I would not list Yuushi and Gakuto amongst them. Pairs like Golden Pair and Silver Pair I can see why people would consider them "semi-canon" because they have a kind of stability that not all doubles pairs have. They rarely, if ever, play doubles with another character, and they seem to spend a lot of outside time with one another, as well. They have a canon trust and understanding that other pairs may not have. Pairings like Rikkai D1 and Sanada/Yukimura I also understand, because they have an intimacy that other pairings do not have. D1 obviously are one such a close level that they can pretend to be one another with little trouble at all, and Sanada and Yukimura have known one another for a very long time and obviously have a very deep understanding and relationship.

However, one sees very little of this from Oshitari Yuushi and Gakuto. Though they do play doubles and have wonderful doubles chemistry in canon, they do not stay together as a doubles partnership by the time Nationals rolls around, and though there is trust and understanding, it is questionable, canonically speaking, just how deep it is. I understand that, in fanfiction, it is very easy to develop their relationship into something more, but as far as canon goes, very little is presented factually to establish a romantic relationship between the two.

That all being said, I, of course, am not at all opposed to your choice. :) OshiGaku was my first Price of Tennis OTP after Golden Pair, and they will always have a place in my heart. I simply like playing the devil's advocate and writing meta type things. ^^;;

[identity profile] snaphappy-fma.livejournal.com 2010-02-13 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to confess that I spend most of my PoT fan time obsessing thinking about the Seigaku regulars more than the other teams' characters. So I haven't done a lot of musing on Oshitaro/Gakuto, but I may be writing a fanfic involving them soon if my schedule clears a bit, so your thoughts have been helpful to me - thanks. :)

And if you're into meta (like I am), this is a great site for Prince of Tennis:

http://intensivetennis.blogspot.com/

It's a team blog that analyzes PoT episode by episode - and hilariously, too. ;)

[identity profile] jackalackala.livejournal.com 2010-02-11 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Um excuse me but where the hell is L on this list? bahahahahaha, sorry. I voted for other in the spirit of the OTP, but otherwise defo Oshitari. I like their perversion :-) Also love Gakuto/Hiyoshi, because Hiyoshi is the greatest ever and needs some people who cut their hair with a ruler handy to love.

You are swell, and I love you :-)

[identity profile] jackalackala.livejournal.com 2010-02-11 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
p.s. I glanced over at your tags list and read "i think we are friends" as "i think we are cousins" and laughed quite a lot. Accidental incest?

"Gakuto," Hiyoshi said, buttoning his shirt again and slipping on his shoes. "I didn't want to tell you this last night, but...I think we are cousins."

":O" Gakuto responded.


YES

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-11 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
LOL. WIN.

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-11 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
XD; I didn't put him on for all the not-on-the-inside folk, but "other" votes for L totally count! Yeah, I have always loved Dirty Pair (and the musicals help a whole lot!) but recently, I've just been seeing more canon evidence for other pairs :x Apparently I'm the only person on the face of the planet who likes Gakuto with Shishido, but I'm glad other people at least can conceive of Piyo/Gakkun. XD;;;; I was trying to imagine the hair of their illegitimate lovechild and cringed. XD;;;

[identity profile] tifarette.livejournal.com 2010-02-18 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Um, aha, hi, I found this post through Google search. And well >.> as much as I might not say anything usually under that sort of circumstance, you happened to mention my favorite pair. Which is ShishiGaku. :D Needless to say, I don't see that very often~ Although it is more frequent now because of Mini!Hyoutei.

Actually, this whole post in general makes me happy. >.> I'm glad to know there are people out there who I don't know yet that are loving of Gakuto and open to splitting up 'normal' pairings in order to explore more awesome other ones.

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-18 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, hi! XD; It's always funny when my lj turns up in a google search... but YAY ANOTHER SHISHIGAKU FAN!! How could anyone not ship it after seeing the OVA? XD;

Thanks so much. I really love Gakuto, just in general, and he's my favourite character out of the whole series, so I just like to play with him. Though I started out very traditional, as I watched the series, I realized there are so many things you can do with him and so many people you can pair him with, and I have fun with it. Actually, I don't know if you're interested in fic, but I wrote this little thing which is Gakuto centric and has a variety of pairings... please excuse the self-pimp. ^^;;

But I'm really glad to find another Gakuto fan!

[identity profile] tifarette.livejournal.com 2010-02-18 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right? It happens with my LJ a lot. >.> And I dunno! But they're obviously adorable, and BFFs at the least. Well >.> until something happened between them. Sad that Gakuto changed from calling him Ryou to Shishido. Especially since I about died of fangirly glee when he called him Ryou in the OVA!

Ah, he's my favorite character too! :D And so yes, that does tend to lead to shipping him around~ I pair him with most of Hyoutei. XD; He's an adorable little bitchy thing... just don't ever let him hear anyone call him adorable or little! I love fic~ But unfortunately it's f-locked... I guess that's a hint? :P Wanna be friends?

Oh yes, we Gakuto fans should stick together!

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-18 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
XD; It only happens to me when I google strange pairings and things that only I like. XD;; And their BFF dynamic was adorable. I like to pretend that Gakuto continued to call him Ryou, because you know that OVA was made after the series and they kind of made things up as they went along XD;;

8D More Gakuto fans, hoorah! XD; And Gakuto is totally the type to get around, so it works. XD; On Hyoutei, I generally stick to Yuushi, Shishido, and Hiyoshi, though I've read Atobe and Jirou before... XD; Though, as the poll intimates, I have a secret liking of Sanada/Gakuto. XD;; Despite that it makes no sense whatsoever. And oh, sorry, I totally forgot that I recently locked a lot of stuff... let's! A fan of Gakuto is a friend of mine XD

8D

[identity profile] tifarette.livejournal.com 2010-02-18 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
XDD Right, me too. HiyoGaku, ShishiGaku... Interestingly enough, I had googled Oshitari Gakuto fanfic recs and came across this... XD; Aww, yeah, that's true~ Well I figure that if they patched things up from whatever happened they'd probably go back to first name basis. Like Shishido never stopped calling him Gakuto.

Pffft, oh he most definitely is that type. >.> Such a tease~ Mm, those are my top three with Gakuto too~ Actually, my favorite threesome is ShishiGakuHiyo But... >.> AtoGaku would be dangerous. And scary. Pfft, that is rather strange~ Aha, it's okay~ Yay for more Gakuto-loving friends!

[identity profile] faded-lace.livejournal.com 2010-02-18 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
XD;; weird, I guess I'm just a happening person (read as, not at all... I'm far too intimidated to post to comms most of the time. >__>) And yeah, perhaps they went through a rough patch, but some part of me really wants them to get back together (though that part of me has to duke it out with the other pairings... XD;)

Well, I think those three definitely have the most canon support out of anyone at Hyoutei I always did OshiGakuHiyo as my threesome.. A friend of mine talked about AtoGaku above, and though I can see it being feasible, it's not something I seek out. XD; And it's because of an RP I'm in-- Gakuto had a secret crush on Sanada. XD;;;